If you venture off-road you need a rescue plan. If you are off-road with a vehicle, SxS, bicycles or motorcycles you also need a rescue plan for the vehicle. Don't break down or get injured with no way to get help. I always ride the motorcycle in groups, or with at least one other. I ride the eMTB alone at times but I always have communications and a plan.
Tuesday, March 17, 2026
Off-Road Incident Response Strategy
If you venture off-road you need a rescue plan. If you are off-road with a vehicle, SxS, bicycles or motorcycles you also need a rescue plan for the vehicle. Don't break down or get injured with no way to get help. I always ride the motorcycle in groups, or with at least one other. I ride the eMTB alone at times but I always have communications and a plan.
Friday, August 22, 2025
Planning Dual Sport & Adventure motorcycle rides
There are many things to consider when planning a group motorcycle ride that includes off-road sections, or is all off-road. These rides are a great way to meet people, and group rides improve safety for all. I began organizing group motorcycle rides about a year and a half ago. I created this post to share my lessons learned over that time, and after many great rides.
Weather
Safety
Comfort and fun
Ride Planning
Ride difficulty level
Ride details
Creating a route
See the "elevation profile" showing how this route follows the terrain. Here is more details about this route: https://sites.google.com/view/las-vegas-dual-sport-adventure/home#h.7ghyi74fpgfg with video. This is a great connector route I often use to make a loop through Goodsprings and Potosi. Powerline service roads can be great trails and too often they are not mapped.
Rating the difficulty
Beyond capability there is also desire. Maybe I could ride though some tough places, but do I want to? Off-road riding is different things to different people. Some enjoy the open air and scenery more. Others enjoy the challenge more. For most of us we are somewhere in the middle. Dork in the road suggests a rider based scale from "explorer" to "thrill seeker" with a continuum in between. I think this is about right.
Creating an event in Facebook
Rider Communication
Rider-to-Rider
Emergency Communication
Liability
RIDE DISCLAIMER & EXPECTATIONS
Self-Guided Group Meetup: This is an informal gathering of independent riders, not a guided tour or organized event. There is no designated leader or guide.
Ride at Your Own Risk: Dual sport motorcycling is inherently dangerous and carries risks of serious injury or property damage. By joining, you assume full personal responsibility for your own safety, navigation, decisions, and vehicle.
Self-Sufficiency: You are responsible for bringing adequate water, food, protective gear, tools, and emergency supplies. All bikes must be street-legal, registered, and insured.
Route & Trail Conditions: Shared GPX tracks or route descriptions are for reference only. Assess trail hazards independently and turn back or alter your route if a section exceeds your skill level.
Release of Liability: By participating in this meetup, you agree not to hold the post creator, group administrators, or fellow participants liable for any accidents, injuries, losses, or damages incurred.
Saturday, November 4, 2023
Rider to Rider Communication
I bought an adventure bike to explore off-road. I also bought a helmet intercom system from Sena (actually mine is branded HJC but it made by Sena, it is an HJC 10B). I rode with some friends that also have helmet intercoms. This is really great, pretty much a necessity once you have had it. There is no going back. You can hold a conversation while riding. The front person can also warn the people behind of upcoming obstacles, vehicles, hazards, etc. You can also discuss where you want to ride, what turns to take, do you want to stop, etc.
The two leading helmet communications makers are Sena and Cardo. These 2 both have mesh systems which allows the communications to use multiple riders to relay messages across the group. This also allows for larger groups of riders to all communicate at the same time. These 2 mesh systems are not compatible though (although Cardo now offers a bridge feature to connect them). This intercom approach is great for street riders who ride close together (less than a mile with clear view). However, off-road the intercom approach has some issues. Off-road we have things like dust, gravel, and rocks getting kicked up by the tires, narrow trails, and other issues that make us ride much farther apart. We also have hills, canyons, mountains, and other obstacles that interrupt the communications. If the person in the back drops their bike, communication is lost pretty fast as the other riders increase the distance. Just when you need it most you lose communications. Mesh helps some as it daisy chains all the riders but you can still break the chain at any time.
I did some investigation into options. I found this great YouTube video going over this same issue and several solutions.
This radio is a 5 Watt unit which is not something you want too close to electronics or your body really. I don't really need to see or touch the radio when riding since I have the PYY button and the mic and speakers use the helmet intercom system. I set the channel and volume and forget it. I decided to clip it into my rear pack, as far from me as I can. I zip the pack on the clip which retains it very well. The radio is waterproof so no worries there.
That all seemed like a great idea until we tried it while riding. The PTT button would only work sometimes, maybe half the time. I suspect the EMI from the motorcycles ignition system interfered with the Bluetooth signal from the PTT button. I decided it was time to mount the radio on the handlebars. I made a mount on the left side which is also only a few inches between the PTT button and the radio.
I found that having the PTT button on the grip was a problem since it would sometimes get in the way of the clutch lever. I moved it to the mirror mount using a strip of Velcro tape and the strap it came with to keep it in position.This worked OK but you have to reach for it and it can slide along the strap a bit. I finally moved it to the clutch lever.
Look closely and you can see one zip tie on each side of the clutch adjuster so it can't move at all. This is the best PTT switch position.
I used 2 small zip ties to retain it in place. Now I can use my index finger to press the button while riding without having to reach. It is also in a place where I would never hit it by accident and it does not move at all. This works perfectly!
The GMRS radio can also communicate with FRS and Ham radios. This means others can have an array of different radios and they can all work together. Note however Ham radios have different channels by default. If you want to use a Ham radio to communicate with FRS or GMRS you will need to program these channels and you all must choose the same frequency and mode (simplex or repeater/duplex). It is not actually legal to use a Ham radio to talk on GMRS channels though. FRS and GMRS channels 1 - 7 appear to be the best choice for compatibility with both FRS and GMRS at 5W. Channels 8 - 14 are limited to 0.5W so not great for our purposes. Channels 15 - 22 would also be good as GMRS can go to 50W here but because of that high power capability you might pick up many other radios that are very far away, as well as high-power repeaters.
| Current (2017) FRS/GMRS Channel Table | |||||
| FRS/GMRS Channel | Frequency (MHz) | FRS Power | GMRS Power | FRS Bandwidth | GMRS Bandwidth |
| 1 | 462.5625 | 2 W | 5 W | 12.5 kHz | 20 kHz |
| 2 | 462.5875 | 2 W | 5 W | 12.5 kHz | 20 kHz |
| 3 | 462.6125 | 2 W | 5 W | 12.5 kHz | 20 kHz |
| 4 | 462.6375 | 2 W | 5 W | 12.5 kHz | 20 kHz |
| 5 | 462.6625 | 2 W | 5 W | 12.5 kHz | 20 kHz |
| 6 | 462.6875 | 2 W | 5 W | 12.5 kHz | 20 kHz |
| 7 | 462.7125 | 2 W | 5 W | 12.5 kHz | 20 kHz |
| 8 | 467.5625 | 0.5 W | 0.5 W | 12.5 kHz | 12.5 kHz |
| 9 | 467.5875 | 0.5 W | 0.5 W | 12.5 kHz | 12.5 kHz |
| 10 | 467.6125 | 0.5 W | 0.5 W | 12.5 kHz | 12.5 kHz |
| 11 | 467.6375 | 0.5 W | 0.5 W | 12.5 kHz | 12.5 kHz |
| 12 | 467.6625 | 0.5 W | 0.5 W | 12.5 kHz | 12.5 kHz |
| 13 | 467.6875 | 0.5 W | 0.5 W | 12.5 kHz | 12.5 kHz |
| 14 | 467.7125 | 0.5 W | 0.5 W | 12.5 kHz | 12.5 kHz |
| 15 | 462.55 | 2 W | 50 W | 12.5 kHz | 20 kHz |
| 16 | 462.575 | 2 W | 50 W | 12.5 kHz | 20 kHz |
| 17 | 462.6 | 2 W | 50 W | 12.5 kHz | 20 kHz |
| 18 | 462.625 | 2 W | 50 W | 12.5 kHz | 20 kHz |
| 19 | 462.65 | 2 W | 50 W | 12.5 kHz | 20 kHz |
| 20 | 462.675 | 2 W | 50 W | 12.5 kHz | 20 kHz |
| 21 | 462.7 | 2 W | 50 W | 12.5 kHz | 20 kHz |
| 22 | 462.725 | 2 W | 50 W | 12.5 kHz | 20 kHz |
- Pair the BTech radio to your phone via Bluetooth. This is used to simplify configuration, not communication really. The Btech app uses this connection to communicate with the radio so the app can be used. Follow the instructions in the app.
- Pair the BTech radio to the push to talk (PTT) button. Follow the directions that come with the radio and PTT button.
- Pair the BTech radio to your helmet intercom via Bluetooth setting it as a second phone. Follow the instructions for putting the radio in paring mode. Then put the helmet intercom in pairing mode to pair to a phone. Treat the radio as a 2nd phone in this case. With HJC/Sena you enter the configuration menu using the helmet intercom buttons until you hear "pair second phone". Somewhat similar with the Cardo. On the Cardo hold the phone button until you hear "phone paring" then roll the roller forward and you should hear "second phone pairing".
I setup the BTech Pro radio to use both the internal speaker and Bluetooth at the same time. This way if I walk away from the bike I can hear the radio even with the helmet off.
I upgraded to the Cardo Packtalk Edge after initially writing this article. In general it works very similar to the Sena as far as radio integration.
The Cardo PackTalk has a weak microphone in my experience. I made this document to help make it better: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pSw99DGPqQlbnlzCCxGzZUEQYRWzhN-yGs87ZEK4pRw/edit?usp=sharing by optimizing mic and speaker placement, as well as settings through the Cardo app. I also found the speakers are best placed so they actually touch your ears. I stuck them to the helmet lines on the outside. Sound is way louder this way.
One downside of the radio is that others may use the channel you are on. Your group will all need to switch channels to find a clear one, which can be a moving target. I start on channel 15. Since it is analog communication you also get background noise and poor reception at times. Also you need to use a push-to-talk button of some sort. Using the one on the radio while riding won't work out. Most GMRS radios are compatible with wired remote PTT buttons. I use the BTECH GMRS-PRO since it can use a Bluetooth PTT button.
BTech now released another radio with integrated Bluetooth, the GMRS-50PRO















